"... The possibility for supporting oneself as an artist or cartoonist is very uncertain; I think it's very important for anyone who wants to be an artist to never expect anything beyond the satisfaction of making the art itself. In a way, to have the freedom to work a regular job and make art 'on the side,' as it were, is really ideal, since then one's survival doesn't depend on the success of the artist in a gallery or wherever. Success in art should always be only about the art itself, not how it's received. Of course, paying off one's student loans is another matter."
—from the Chicago Reader's February 1, 2018, issue
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